From Aaron Sloman Sun Mar 2 11:00:20 GMT 1997 Subject: infallible qualia-detectors (was: Ineffability of qualia) To: psyche-d@rfmh.org Sue Pockett (s.pockett@auckland.ac.nz) Sat, 1 Mar 1997 15:41:57 +1200 wrote answering Pat's question: On 28 Feb 97 at 13:02, Pat Hayes wrote: > >Can one be mistaken about one's own qualia? Sue replied: > No. But she didn't say why. I think many people would agree with her answer, and the argument goes something like this. The nature of a quale is defined by the content of your experience, i.e. how something seems to you. E.g. when you have a visual quale involving something red and square, that is defined as something seeming red and square to you. (I am not claiming that that is a sufficient condition for the existence of sensory qualia, just a necessary condition. Some seemings may come by other routes not involving sensory qualia.) Contrast the above with the following case: whether the table IS red and square or not is quite a separate matter from whether it SEEMS red and square to you, so you can be mistaken about the table's colour and shape. If a quale's being red and square is, by DEFINITION, a matter of something seeming red and square, then there can be no divergence between how it seems and how it is, at least not at the instance of time in question. So there is a kind of infallibility here. (You might easily forget how it was or misremember, e.g. if you are quickly distracted by something else, or nasty psychologists do experiments, etc. on you. But then we are talking about your being mistaken *later*. You may also make some wrong inferences from how things seem to, e.g. thinking you had an electric shock when you haven't, as in Pat's case.) If that's the reason why Sue answered "No", then we can see that the reason why her answer is correct is a fairly trivial matter of definition: how things seem is how things seem. There's no room for error there! But we can now generalise the above point about infallible qualia judgements: If there's anything at all that uses information, whether it is a person, an animal, a machine, a ghost in a machine, or whatever, then we can make a distinction between (a) what it takes the content of the information to be (at a particular time) and (b) how things actually are at the time. There could in principle be a discrepancy between the two, i.e. an error or mistake is possible. If we invent a name e.g. "infocontent" to refer to the first item (a), i.e. what the content is taken to be by the information user, then there cannot be any mistake about THAT. How things seem to you is, by definition how things seem to you. What the machine/animal/person takes the information to be is by definition how it takes the information to be. It can't be wrong about THAT, even if it is wrong about (b). So, for example, an operating system may be mistaken about how many processes there are at a certain time because of a bug in the software that prevents some entries being removed from the process table when the process dies (or simply because there is a short delay before the entries are removed). And it may take a wrong decision on the basis of the error, e.g. deciding that it cannot give up the space allocated to any of those processes for use by other processes. But although the system can be mistaken about how many processes there are, it cannot be mistaken about its infocontents, i.e. what it takes the number of current processes to be. We can also say that this information about infocontents, unlike most other information, is direct and unmediated (by definition). (A complication: if the system is complex one, with many subsystems, then some of the subsystems that use information may have infocontents that differ from those of other subsystems and with the infocontents of the whole system. E.g. if your left and right eyes process colours differently then they may have different colour infocontents, without your knowing anything about that, just as they have different infocontents regarding relative lateral displacements of edges in the optic array, a fact that you are unaware of, but which is used in producing your experience of depth. Of course, in this case you can become aware of the difference by alternatively covering your left and your right eye.) Much philosophical confusion arises from noticing things that are true, but not noticing that they are true by definition, and then thinking there's something very profound going on, perhaps even a "hard" problem? Of course, I wouldn't dream of accusing Sue of falling into such a trap. Incidentally, I would not say that my demonstration of the necessary existence of infallible infocontents in information processesors is a *deduction* from classical physics. But I don't think it follows that we need to invoke quantum physics. There's nothing to stop a classical physical machine being the underlying implementation for an information using machine, with infocontents. And I think the example given above shows why infocontents will occur in such a system. Likewise the inevitability that brains will contain experiences/qualia/sensory contents with a kind of infallibility. Cheers. Aaron